RE: Simplified Chinese (GB2312) in Manila
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2/22/2002; 9:58 AM by Nobumi Iyanaga
RE: Simplified Chinese (GB2312) in Manila (#16122)
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Hello Jonathan,
>Read on the web at http://community.scriptmeridian.org/16122
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>
>Dear Nobumi and Emmanuel,
>
>As you can see from http://133.14.174.35/transTest3/ it is possible to
>render Japanese and other languages in UTF-8 from Manila. (That site is
>very buggy at the moment. I have a much updated, but still by no means
>perfect version which I will try to install soon. You are welcome to play
>around if you like. But as far as enabling of multi-script writing is
>concerned, I have done nothing more than Emmanuel did on his site; I just
>set the page encoding to UTF-8 rather than Chinese).
>
>In my experience the problem with writing mixed text in Manila messages is
>not a Frontier/Manila problem but a browser problem. If the page with the
>input form is encoded as UTF-8 then all the code that reaches Frontier is
>UTF-8. But on my machine at least (Mac OS10.1, IE 5.1, and previous
>versions of Mac0S), it's not possible to write e.g. German with umlauts
>and Japanese together on the same HTML form.
Ah, I understand. As I am on a very old environment (OS 7.6.1; Frontier
4.2.3...; I even don't know what is Manila in Frontier...), I cannot do any
testing myself, but if you use OS 10.1, I think you should try OmniWeb. I
guess IE and Netscape are not Cocoa applications and so don't handle
Unicode properly (at least not in writing; in displaying, they can simulate
more or less...). Installing Arial Unicode would probably not fix the
problem with IE or Netscape.
I think Windows is much better in this regard. You can write mixed
multi-script text in HTML forms.
>
>No doubt I am failing to make some elementary adjustments to my browser's
>font settings to make it display mixed text correctly. (Perhaps I should
>get hold of Arial Unicode?) But my point here is that this seems to be a
>browser display problem and not a Frontier/Manila problem. The text itself
>is surviving the posting/displaying/editing process.
How do you render UTF-8 text in Frontier...? As Frontier is not Unicode
savvy, I think all text in UTF-8 is garbled in Frontier's windows...? Or do
you convert the text from legacy codes to UTF-8 on the fly?
Best regards,
Nobumi Iyanaga
Tokyo,
Japan
>Read on the web at http://community.scriptmeridian.org/16122
>----------------------------------
>
>Dear Nobumi and Emmanuel,
>
>As you can see from http://133.14.174.35/transTest3/ it is possible to
>render Japanese and other languages in UTF-8 from Manila. (That site is
>very buggy at the moment. I have a much updated, but still by no means
>perfect version which I will try to install soon. You are welcome to play
>around if you like. But as far as enabling of multi-script writing is
>concerned, I have done nothing more than Emmanuel did on his site; I just
>set the page encoding to UTF-8 rather than Chinese).
>
>In my experience the problem with writing mixed text in Manila messages is
>not a Frontier/Manila problem but a browser problem. If the page with the
>input form is encoded as UTF-8 then all the code that reaches Frontier is
>UTF-8. But on my machine at least (Mac OS10.1, IE 5.1, and previous
>versions of Mac0S), it's not possible to write e.g. German with umlauts
>and Japanese together on the same HTML form.
Ah, I understand. As I am on a very old environment (OS 7.6.1; Frontier
4.2.3...; I even don't know what is Manila in Frontier...), I cannot do any
testing myself, but if you use OS 10.1, I think you should try OmniWeb. I
guess IE and Netscape are not Cocoa applications and so don't handle
Unicode properly (at least not in writing; in displaying, they can simulate
more or less...). Installing Arial Unicode would probably not fix the
problem with IE or Netscape.
I think Windows is much better in this regard. You can write mixed
multi-script text in HTML forms.
>
>No doubt I am failing to make some elementary adjustments to my browser's
>font settings to make it display mixed text correctly. (Perhaps I should
>get hold of Arial Unicode?) But my point here is that this seems to be a
>browser display problem and not a Frontier/Manila problem. The text itself
>is surviving the posting/displaying/editing process.
How do you render UTF-8 text in Frontier...? As Frontier is not Unicode
savvy, I think all text in UTF-8 is garbled in Frontier's windows...? Or do
you convert the text from legacy codes to UTF-8 on the fly?
Best regards,
Nobumi Iyanaga
Tokyo,
Japan
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RE: Simplified Chinese (GB2312) in Manila
2/22/2002 by Samuel Reynolds
>How do you render UTF-8 text in Frontier...? As Frontier is not Unicode >savvy, I think all text in UTF-8 is garbled in
2/22/2002 by Samuel Reynolds
RE: Simplified Chinese (GB2312) in Manila
2/24/2002 by Jonathan Lewis
Dear Nobumi, Sorry for the long delay in replying. Thanks for the tip about browsers. I'll take a look at Omniweb and, gulp,
2/24/2002 by Jonathan Lewis