<x-charset iso-8859-1>Bravo Manu!

Flip


At 12:19 -0500 05/02/02, Emmanuel. M. Decarie wrote:
>À (At) 08:44 -0800 05/02/02, Henri Asseily écrivait (wrote) :
>>Pathetic and sad, considering the potential of the software.
>
>I concur. Its sad to see how much Frontier talents are lost in
>personal wars, especially when Radio offer so much potential, to a so
>much wider audience than Frontier, and that's mean jobs for Frontier
>and Radio developers. I don't want to take part in a flame war, but
>its sad to see such a great Frontier talent as David always in a
>collision course with Dave (the reverse is true I guess).
>
>We all know how Dave can behave sometimes, but it doesn't help either
>that developers push a site like winerlog. Frontier developers are
>free to do as they want, but IMO, they just shoot themselves in the
>foot when they support winerlog. Not because winerlog make parodies
>of Dave Winer (parodies that are not even very good), that's ok with
>me ("qui sème le vent récolte la tempête"), but the people at
>winerlog doesn't distinguish between the software and the CEO. I
>don't think that anyone on this list think that Frontier/Manila/Radio
>are crap, but that's what the winerlog people seems to think. Does
>the developers employed at UserLand deserve this (Brent, Jake, Doug)?
>
>Think a little bit about it. We all like to have a villain to shoot
>at. But do we have to shoot at ourselves when a new UserLand product
>offer so much promise?
>
>The Frontier developers have to leverage themselves in something else
>that is not personnal and try to organize themselves in a way that
>will try to go above the personal conflicts. We already have this
>great resource, scriptmeridian.com. Why not try to use it to elect a
>board of developers that will have for mandate to find solutions to
>conflicts and promote a list of urgent bugs fix and features on which
>the community could vote.
>
>In return, I think UserLand should have somebody (Brent?) which could
>be nominated to "developers relations". So this board could discuss
>privately with the UserLand interlocutor for the developers and then
>publish each month a report on what have been
>discussed/fixed/created...
>
>Mes deux sous...
>
>Cheers
>-Emmanuel
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